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  1. #1 BMPCC/BMMCC Run n Gun Recommendations 
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    Hey whatsup BM family! I've been patiently waiting to get verified in order to post this thread. Anyway, I have a few questions regarding a run n gun setup i've been envisioning.

    So I have a budget of roughly ~$1500 excluding the camera (I graduated from AmeriCorps and got a nice grant that will pay for my expenses) and I want to purchase decent run n gun kit for documenting the creative process of musicians/artists. I do not own any digital equipment (I own a Hasselblad 500cm and my only digital camera is a Canon t1i) so i'm literally starting from scratch here. Since I will be doing a lot of moving I'm in the market for 3 major things: wide angle lens/handheld rig/stealthy mic

    This is my ideal setup as of now:

    Handheld Rig
    http://store.redrockmicro.com/Catalog/Retroflex/Retroflex-for-Blackmagic-Pocket-Camera.html$500 (Seen some sold for as low as $150)

    Wide Angle Lens
    http://www.amazon.com/Cosina-Voigtlander-Nokton-10-5mm-Warranty/dp/B010EK78CI $1100 (Seen some as low as $700)
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=1022991&gclid=COKq8YuFx8gCFYJqfgodG_AP 9g&is=REG&Q=&A=details $599
    http://www.adorama.com/SLR1216MFT.ht...FcOBfgodpjMHbw$599

    Stealthy Mic
    http://www.ohrwurmaudio.eu $160

    So those 3 things are necessities. For the lenses i'm trying to decide which is the best option. I know the MFT crop factor is ridiculous, and if I'm going to use the Redrock rig, I need something that is wide angle so camera shake isn't as noticeable. The only options I've seen thus far that would accommodate my needs are the voigt, kowa, and slrmagic. So I don't need all 3, just one.

    Like I said I'm using this camera very 'andy warhol' style...documenting parties, events, and daily lives of artists.

    Now I know the BMMCC is very new and there aren't many options available yet, but just going off of form over function, I am leaning towards the BMPCC because I can buy the entire kit at one time really soon, and hopefully by Black Friday I will be able to score excellent deals.

    Batteries and other accessories right now can be purchased later after I get the bulk of the expenses taken care of first.

    What are your thoughts?
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    This is pretty much exactly how I want to setup my rig.
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    I think the Redrock setup and lens choices you've made are good. Only thing to keep in mind that there are no IS on those lenses and the BMPCC so moving around will require a very stable hands. You'll want to invest in a handheld recorder with mic like a Tascam or Zoom. The mic on the BMPCC is pitiful if you want to capture voice or live audio with your footage.
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    Hmm my friend has a Zoom H4 that i'm sure I can use. But it was my understanding that the Ohrwurm III was basically plug n play? Meaning I would just plug it into the camera and thats all what's needed? As for the lens choices, i'm fighting between a super fast "normal" focal length and a fast "wide angle". The Kowa 6mm would be the best in terms of stabilization but the Voigt is best for low light.
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    Watch out too for vignetting with the 6mm. Might want to check out the Kowa 8mm 1.4 instead. Here's a video of the 8mm on the BMPCC. There still a slight vignette showing on the 8mm.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwOpIU_1_JE
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    EYu, the Pocket camera can record very good audio, if you feed it a high enough mic or line level signal. The camera records audio as PCM, 24-bit, 48kHz signal. Best results are had when using a separate mic preamp, like the Sound Devices MicPreD, with a unbalanced line 1/8 mini plug mic or line feed. Be sure to set the camera's audio input to match the signal being used (mic or line level).
    Most people have issues when they feed the camera a straight mic level (which is often too low the camea's mic preamp. A mic with a high gain setting, like the Video MicPro works quite well in a run and gun situation. If you use the Zoom, make sure to set it at 24-bit, 48kHz WAV format to match the camera audio signal, and reduce editing audio issues.
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    Here are a couple pictures of my handheld rig. The wooden handle can be configured to be perfectly ergonomic. Those pistol handles are a gimmick, hold your hand in front of your face, your grip is naturally parallel, not perpendicular to the lens barrel. I'll sell you this rig for $2000 and you could be shooting next week or build your own.

    BMPCC
    SLR Magic 10mm T2.1
    Viefactor cage+cable lock
    Cinesmart 90 degree rosette
    aminimart rosette extension
    aaton style wooden grip
    Zacuto finder + Bluestar cushion
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    1 Sandisk Extremo Pro 128GB

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    Too smooth for Ergocine, Kinogrip?
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    Smallrig, Letus & Ergocine support
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    I know it's quite expensive, but i'd look for a [used] Olympus 7-14mm 2.8 lens as it gives you much more flexibility than one single lens.

    Pistol grips with LANC port are dirt cheap nowadays, seeing some @ ebay for <50 €
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    Quote Originally Posted by soupkitchen View Post
    Too smooth for Ergocine, Kinogrip?
    Hansthai123 on ebay. I've bought a few of his handles they're very nice and reasonably priced. This looks like one of his (or hers) maybe a little beat up.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/WOODEN-HANDL...AAAOSwI-BWFmHT
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